From: Suzette Blanchard <>
Subject:[NMusers] initial condition model
Date: 7/24/2003 8:25 PM


	Could someone help me with how to set
up an initial condition - one compartment
model with first order absorption (i.e. a recursive
one compartment model with first order absorption
that would allow a random effect on the initial
concentration) in NONMEM?

	Thank you,

Suzette Blanchard, Ph.D.
Research Scientist
Frontier Science Foundation
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From: Lewis B Sheiner <>
Subject: Re: [NMusers] initial condition model
Date: 7/25/2003 2:14 PM


You seem to want an intial condition on the state vector, in
which case the usual trick is to put a unit 'dose' into the
central compartment at time zero, associated with a value of
F for that compartment (and for time 0 only) which equals a
(new) theta plus a (new) eta
for an extended discussion).

However, in the spirit of the approach & discussion at, 
you might instead set F for the 'initializing' dose equal
to the observed (individual-specific) baseline concentration
value times V, plus a (new) eta whose variance is constrained
to equal that of the observation error.

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